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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

C.C. Rider

Sorry Bobby.....

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

Well I sure hope that the nuisance of having to hit the skip button every once-in-a-while doesn't keep you from enjoying some of the other nice jams from this period. I don't care much for Seastones, but that hardly stops me from listeing to '74!

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

It's a slightly tongue in cheek comment to be honest.
I have started to dig into 1981 and am enjoying it, yet I would prefer it if the boys had given this tune a miss.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:38am
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Yeah, I figured as much. When I need an early 80s fix, I look for a show with a Bird Song> Let it Grow combo. That usually helps to smooth out the rough edges a bit.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

Then I'd have to trash all of my 68-71 discs because of Lovelight (though 2/28/69 and one of those '70 versions work well).

Agree with the larger point, that CC Rider is mostly a downer. Would have been a bathroom break for me back in the day if it hadn't come in the 2 slot so often. There are a few good versions out there, don't remember where though.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

Agreed on Lovelights (from any era really).

In the early years you had Pig's "raps" that for me seemed often repetitive and forced; then you had Bobbie trying to coyp Pig's "raps" that for me seemed REALLY repetitive and forced.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

SDH,

"Repetitive and forced" is being kind. I liked the first few Lovelights I saw (marginally), but the tune hit CC Rider status for me very quickly. My biggest 80's complaint, other than the big guy dozing off once and a while, might be the Lovelights, JBGs, NFAs and Good Lovins that ended the 2nd set. Why not a rippin Jack Straw?

Actually, I think I enjoyed my first Weir Lovelight, then hated the rest.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

> My biggest 80's complaint, other than the big guy dozing off once and a while,

LOL. You expect the lead guitar/lead vocalist to stay awake? Picky, picky.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:59pm
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Cracked a laugh on this one... gotta love those shows where you're listening and waiting for Jerry to wake up and get it on... an hour later it's still not happening and you just throw off the headphones in disappointment and go and be productive doing something else.

Then you come back a few hours later and obsess over a '73.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

I agree. I love Bobby, but there are lapses. CC Rider is one of them.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The glory of >>I

I wouldn't discount an entire era due to one lame tune. Yes there are some versions where Jerry absolutely rips it up, but I just can't get past Bobbie's Murph and the Magic Tones lounge act schmaltz.

This may be one of the greatest things about digital Dead: now, instead of hitting fast forward on the tape deck and searching for the end of the song, you can just hit "next".

What are your "next" tunes? I've got Terrapin and LLR on my list.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

LLR is definitely one.
Black Throated Wind and Rooster are 2 more.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:57am
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Personally, I can't understand the disrespect for Black-throated Wind ...

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

Me neither. I'm not always in the mood, but sometimes that song strikes just the right chord.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

I have tried, but I do not like this song. Forget about the revival editions. The '72-'74 versions are more palatable, but I'll go elsewhere in the musical buffet.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:38am
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I don't know, it's got something. It's not a song to feel passionate about it, I admit, but it usually grabs me.

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Poster: Zaorish Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:46am
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BTW is a decent song.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:09am
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No disrespect.
I went thru a phase not long ago where I really dug on BTW. Must have burned myself out, because it is not one I care for much anymore. I generally find these things to be cyclical, so I imagine that at some point in the future it will be back in the rotation, but for now it is one that I skip over.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

What, you don't feel "Plunging like stones from a slingshot on Mars" is perhaps the greatest line ever written?

Literary genious.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

I don't think I have any Always Skips. Except for all Brent tunes.

Rooster is a mostly skip. It's not horrible, but I think I've heard it quite enough, thank you. (If you're a rooster too lazy to crow, wouldja stop crowing every other show, already?!?)

LLR, for all its schmaltz, can get really nice once they get done with the words. BTW isn't on my A-list, but I like that, too. Don't tend to skip it. Will often skip Alabama Getaway, Don't Ease Me In, Hell in a Bucket, West LA Fadeaway and Day Job.

Then there are times I won't skip anything cuz I'm feeling persnickety about hearing a full show. Unless it's a Brent tune. Nothing will induce me not to skip those.



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

Alabama? WLAFA?
I going to make a mission out of finding you a Brent tune to call your very own.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

I'm thinking he may be referring to those Brent solo tunes that include classics like Never Trust A Woman and I Will Take You Home.

I have to agree with AR on this one.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

O.K. AR. Here is a Hey Pocky Way

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1989-03-31.sbd.miller.32349.sbeok.flac16


edit- for you too Mr. IWTYH/NTaW

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

Hey Pocky Way was by the Neville Bros, wasn't it?

SDH is right, I mean the tunes Brent wrote.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:16am
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White flag.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:59am
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Ok Ok Okaaaaay, I'll listen to Never Trust a Woman from 9/20/82. There. Geez, anything to keep from having to listen to a bunch of Brent tune recs.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:05am
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Gutsy move.

Good luck with that. As much as I like the early 80's, I'm afraid you'll have to go alone on that one.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:21am
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Hey, anything to avoid having to hear a bunch of Tons of Steels and Easy to Skip Yous. Btw, if anyone ever ties you to a chair and says, "Which will it be? Day Job or Easy to Skip You?", you could survive the Day Job from that same show. In some cases, it's all about survivability ...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The glory of >>I

In that situation I would pray my lower intestine could crawl up my spinal column and throttle my brain in order to stop the pain, regardless of which tune I picked.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:53am
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Yes, that would help, too. Just trying to give you that little extra edge, to help your intestines out ...

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:26am
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Oh no, that song was never good! I can't remember what brilliant poster on this site said something like: "Poor Brent! All his songs are either about heavy machinery or being mistreated by a woman ..."

I'm with you on Looks Like Rain, though - Jerry made that song beautiful. I often go specifically to it if I want to hear that style of playing. I also love how it usually turns into a march somewhere during the final guitar solo.

Been thinking about this song lately, and, given Barlow's other work with Weir, I think we have to consider the possibility that the lyrics may be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, no? Maybe it's a parody of a schmaltzy love song - not as successful as some of his others, and Bobby set it so seriously that it's hard to tell ...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:39am
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>LLR, for all its schmaltz, can get really nice once they get done with the words

Noooooooooooo.

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Poster: SpacedAgain Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:50pm
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Come on!

Brent loved Rooster enough to fall of his chair during it.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Mar 8, 2011 10:23am
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What everyone but me listens to PICASO MOON and Victims???

Not that I dwell in the late 80's 90's much, but THEY SUCK and should never be listened too-lol.

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:36am
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Yes sdh

My trigger finger has become itchy in the digital age. Very different experience than my age old cassette etiquette, of Never ff to prevent stretching and straining the most rarest of trades.

Now my list of skips is getting scaringly long:

The Must Skips (starting to gag, possiblity of hives, wished I was deaf, running to the skip button)
Tennesee jed
Day job
Don't ease me in
Might as well
Round n round
Promised land
Touch of grey
Johnny be good
Biodtl
Us blues
Alabama getaway
Casey jones
High time

The Rather Nots (eyes may water, general mood dampened, but not medically taxing)
Sailor > saint
Mexicali
big river
Cc rider
Me & my uncle
Estimated

Truckin

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:44am
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Wow, your list amazes me. I like everything on it except for CC Rider, and Day Job.

High Times?!?!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:08am
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When you've got the Skip Finger going (bad songs, tuning, banter, "step back", lame jokes, technical issues, any encore, etc.), it's often possible to get through an entire show in about an hour. When time is short, I'll go for quality over quantity any day.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:04am
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That's funny. Reminds me of the way my son and I watch the NBA. You can watch a 48 minute game in about and hour with a good skip finger.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:07am
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Your inclusion of High Time blows my mind. Are you willing to explain because that there is a GREAT song.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:36am
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I agree with Utopian, but I will qualify that by saying it really depends on the mood at the time.

Yes, I agree it is an outstanding song, unlike many of the aforementioned Brent tunes and several Bobby products, but, and I say this carefully, if I'm in the mood for a rockin' show full of bounce and energy, High Time can certainly kill that quickly. As said before if I'm listening at home I will almost always let Hight Time roll over me like a comfortable blanket, but if I'm on the road and need to stay awake, HT is like a dose of Ambien the size of a Volswagen and is almost always passed on.

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 8, 2011 10:07am
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I would be glad to listen to any of your reccomendations to change my mind.

Nothing personal, but I just checked and still think the song sucks. From the start of the song jerrys slow paced downer notes,the odd chord progression, and the dreary lyrics- all would have me running to the bathroom if I was at a show.

High time is one of the slower songs in the deads entire catalog. While some of the balads; stella, black peter, wharf rat, even comes a time, all engage me, high time does not. (trying to think if I ever saw one live? think so?) somehow It reminds me of 'ill take a melody' by jgb. Just depressing for some reason.

Generally I like the Blistering funky jams of 77-83 dead. While i like the cream of early 70's shows, the sound at that time seems to dabble and lend more in the folk/country vibe, which is not my prefered vibe. Of course just my personal opinion, and I would not like to come off as one of those utterly annoying boo hooing soap box preachers trying to convince you of the merits, or not, of this or that.

please listen away to what you like....Just trying to explain, as requested.

peace

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:19am
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Your opinions (utopian and SDH) are totally appreciated. I guess I've always just had a soft spot for the song as very few of the tunes in the Dead's live repertoire deal with heartbreak as directly (and poignantly) as High Time (to my ears at least).

5/6/81 is a very nice version that falls within your favored timespan, utopian. The whole show ain't too shabby, either.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:40pm
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God, I think High Time is a gem. It's sort of medieval. I might concede the live versions are hit-and-miss.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:24pm
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I'm listening to a "hit" right now: 8/13/91 Cal Expo. Not as good as the joyous Candyman at this show (who says only Bobby hams it up?), but this is certainly a strong High Time despite some questionable vocal harmonies. Jerry seems to be in a mid-to-slow tempo ballad mood during this set, with Sugaree, Candyman, and High Time being his only turns at the mic.

Here's to "High Time"s :)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 9, 2011 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the merrits, or not, of High Time

I love HT. It can be dicey live, but RH lyrics and JG arrangement make, as Ring wrote, a gem. It's one of the few sad songs that stays melancholy in words and music throughout.

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Poster: reviewr Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:25pm
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Ouch... With respect to every one's own opinion I hope you are only talking about early '80s.
Please try
Tennesee from '72
Don't Ease is always a nice encore for me
Round N Round from '73-'74
Johnny B Goode from '71
US Blues from Miami '74
High Time always
Sailor> Saint gives the '80s it's own character
Big River from '77
Me & My Uncle from '69
Estimated always
Truckin' from all of the '70s

I know the best might be over, but early '80's have a lot to offer: Shakedown, Stranger, Althea, Wharf Rat, and yes Rooster, etc.
My humble opinion.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:27am
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I don't hit FF often, but when I do it's usually for "El Paso" (hands down my least favorite pre-90s GD song, cover or otherwise) or the slow version of "Friend of Devil" (I loved the original, but I'd have rather they just dropped it from the set list entirely than turn in into the musical coma it became).

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 8, 2011 3:01pm
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El paso- was apparently mickeys least favorite dead song.

~ I kinda like it

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:42pm
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One word (three words I guess): JGB

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:46pm
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excellent description - lol :)

forgot about FoD - another one on my >> list

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:50am
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T Jed is my #1 skip tune - closely followed by LLR. I suppose I would also have to add BTW, BMR, Picasso Moon, and many Brent tunes (though I liked Brent's actual "playing")

others: Gloria, Day Job, OMSN, 'Round & 'Round,

(others may come to me, but these are off the top of my head)

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:35am
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I, too, skipped OMSN for a few years, but I've been digging it lately. I think the E72 versions have brought me back around.

I was in a very long Estimated funk as well, which seems to have passed.

Funny how that works.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:04am
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a long Estimated funk?? interesting. not a song i would have thought one would tire of. then again, every song gets old after awhile requiring one to take a break from it. come to think of it, I have been in a bit of a China>Rider funk for some time. Rider can occasionally get on my nerves unless it is riproaring :)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:16am
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Bingo on the OMSN from E72, they are not to be skipped.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:56am
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If I'm at home and have plenty of time, I may let the whole show play uninterrupted, but when I'm in my car and time is a factor, the Skip Finger is very busy.

Kind of enlightening when you realize how many tunes you do skip. Reading the posts here brings others to mind; I can't remebmer the last time I listend to a complete Around and Around or One More Saturday Night.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:53am
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good point - when at home listening as "background music" I do tend to just let the show go on. But driving IS a whole different ballgame. LLR oftentimes make driving into a bridge abutment at high speed an appealing option :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:10am
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It works for me. Discounting an entire era--multiple eras even--due to a lame tune (or three). But, out of respect for your many informative, engaging posts on furniture loss and the late 70s and early 80s, I will tread lightly, and leave it at that.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:23am
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Often I'll decide just to skip the Grateful Dead altogether and listen to something else.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:30am
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do your posts have a skip button (or at least a Fast Forward option)


:-p

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:39am
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You just have to resist opening them, Pavlov's wolf.

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Poster: high flow Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:45am
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Change screen-name to Tuning....that's ALWAYS easy to skip.

You don't know how easy it is
you don't know how easy it is to skip you...

ooh, ooh, OOOOHHH.....


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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:45am
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LOL!!!

nice one :)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:43am
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i cant.

i still am an addict at heart.

(apparently a masochistic addict)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:26am
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What? Are you mad? And here I was comfortable with the fact that we were ALL myopics zombies only able to enjoy one type of music. Now you go and ruin it.

I've posted it once, and I'll post it again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsOCUFFn4Ug

(guess which is you)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 12:58pm
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LOL. this is where these threads always go. This band actually sucks. What are we all doing here.

It's the flip side of "So which versions of [song] do you recommend from [year]?" If you catch those threads a few hours late, every show from the entire year will have been recommended, meaning the question may as well not have been asked. This band never played a song that we do not all love and there is no version of any song that we don't nominate for BEST EVER.

Sorry to go all meta on you but this place is so much fun.

I'm home with a very bad cold, doing nothing but playing solitaire, replying to work emails, and listening to - what am I listening to? I've just been clicking around, it turns out I'm listening to 2/19/82, don't ask me why. And reading this board. And having a high time on cold medicine.

2/19/82 has a very nice Stella Blue.
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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:12pm
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Well I don't think it sucks all the time, although on occasion it can suck like an industrial vacuum cleaner, especially in the (insert bugbear time period of choice) there's just a heck of lot of other things I want to be listening to as well. I have to say I was bemused, but maybe not surprised, by the number of people who declared in a thread not so long ago that they listened to pretty much nothing but the Grateful Dead all day and every day.

Enjoy your time off with the cold. The great thing about these non-life threatening illnesses is that you get to lay back in bed feeling luxuriantly self indulgent as you catch up on your reading and your DVD boxsets.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:12pm
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"I have to say I was bemused, but maybe not surprised, by the number of people who declared in a thread not so long ago that they listened to pretty much nothing but the Grateful Dead all day and every day."

Really? This is the nature of obsession. At the moment, they're a lifeline to me. I haz stress ...

"Enjoy your time off with the cold. The great thing about these non-life threatening illnesses is that you get to lay back in bed feeling luxuriantly self indulgent as you catch up on your reading and your DVD boxsets."

I feel pretty sorry for myself actually :)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:21pm
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I'm pretty sure I'm as obsessive as any other misfit hereabouts, I'm just not so relentlessly monotheistic about it. (That's my pagan Celtic roots showing, no doubt.)

Anyway, you go on feeling sorry for yourself. I'm sure no one else is.

(Do I have to do a WT and signal frantically that this is a joke? Would a smiley face help? :-) )

:-) - another one for luck.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:51pm
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>(Do I have to do a WT and signal frantically that this is a joke? Would a smiley face help? :-) )

Yeah, it would help :)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:56pm
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Ha :)

Well if you get obsessed with one song relentlessly like I do, it really limits your listening routines. I aimed to actually listen to all of 2/19/82, but playing Althea - the first song - 10 times makes getting through the whole show slow going. It'll take weeks.

although the minglewood is blazing too. hm, maybe I can keep going.

No you're so right no one else is feeling sorry for me :(

Althea is not the first song, I am doped up on Alka Seltzer.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

I have mentioned this before , but at one of the first Ventura shows(82?), one of the funniest heckling "song request" I ever heard ;"Bob, DON"T play CC Rider!"...
At least in the bigger picture it gets points for being relatively rare , unlike , say "Rooster".
I am mostly a pre Brent guy, but I have discovered that the first few years of the 80's are sort of cool in their own way . I now like those years better that the the more "together" 89-90 late Brent slot .

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:46am
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But at least it beats "Walkin' Blues" in the 90's!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:26am
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This Walking Blues may be the best they did.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-24.sbd.miller.107873.flac16

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:28am
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also the best-ever "Loser" comes from that show!

(or perhaps tied w/best-ever from Ventura 7/22/84)

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Mar 8, 2011 11:33am
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How did that Loser not make it on to Dozin' at the Knick? A minor tragedy...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:08pm
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I'll never understand that either. It had to be a conscious decision to leave it off--which makes no sense, b/c clearly it's one of the best--if not THE best version ever...which leaves only the possibility that maybe somehow the SBD tapes were not running at the time they played it or crapped out or something, and they felt the quality of what they were left w/wasn't good enough to include on the CD.....but if it was anything else someone needs to be taken to the tool shed for not recognizing what a travesty they committed. Absolutely one of the great live recording mysteries ever.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:21am
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Oh yes it does! The first 7 songs in Set One are excellent. From a usual tuning number LTGTR becomes a great song. Set Two is, well you know. One of the few shows I listen all the way through (well no TJED, OMSN).

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 6:58am
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Oddly, though I don't have much use for the 90's overall, I really like Bobby's take on Walkin' Blues. I'd skip most everything *else* on a 90's set list ... there's also Lazy River Road, which is very sweet even in the middle of some truly horrible shows.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:02am
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OK, but please don't tell me you liked "Black Muddy River" also ;-)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:03am
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I love Black Muddy River. But I readily admit that many of the live versions are not really listenable.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:13am
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...and to be fair, much of what occurred after about 1991 was un-listenable.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:20am
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Exactly. It's not the songs' fault :) Lazy River Road and Black Muddy River are exquisite. They should have been masterpieces. We all know they weren't ...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 8:50am
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And So Many Roads. It's a short sweet list of bright last flames ...

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Poster: snori Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:51am
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I'd rather listen to 10 C.C.Riders than one more 'Around & Around'.

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Poster: SpacedAgain Date: Mar 8, 2011 9:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I've found out the reason why I don't listen to the early 80's....

How about if Another Sat Night was added to sweeten the pot?


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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:12am
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Awwww. Not even this one?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-09-12.nak700.wagner.miller.105584.flac16

Bob is in his Vegas mood, but it just rolls into a super-hot jam. Maybe the best CC Rider, IMO (though can't say if that's the best source.) Granted, when I first heard it and thought, "Wow! What a great CC Rider!" I did kinda stop and think, "Umm, did I just use the word 'great' and 'CC Rider' in the same sentence?" But still, I ask you: CC Rider or Little Red Rooster? CC Rider or Alabama Getaway?

And ya know, if you don't listen to early 80s, you miss some great Wang Dang Doodles :-)

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:35am
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Ohh, Alabama Getaway would win hands down.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:39am
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AAAAAK! Alabama Getaway to the bathroom? Ah well, different ears. And at least the line to the bathroom will be shorter by one :-)

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Mar 8, 2011 1:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: First Sets were rehersals in the 80's

Considering how infrequent these musicians held rehersals and how extensive into the late evening/early mornings the fun continued, first sets and those simple three chord ditties were rehersal for the second set.

And, sometimes Weir could nudge Jerry into a blistering solo on these overplayed tunes that seemed to underwhelm his genius.

There's a Buddhist saying; "you've got to earn your lunch"

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:32am
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That's my girl!

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:49am
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Missed me?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:52am
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Naturally; I am surprised how easily I pick out a Welsh accent these days--and it makes me think of you every time. Or, Colour Sergeant Bourne at Rorke's Drift with all of his Welshmen breaking into song...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 4:10am
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I love some early '80's GD.
But Miss Divine, I do declare that C.C. Rider is awful. Nominated for worst cover tune.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:24am
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I can't name specific dates, but I know there are some early 80s Riders that I have heard where Jerry absolutely tears it up.

I'll take a C.C. Rider over a Rooster anyday.

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Poster: WillCo Date: Mar 8, 2011 2:35pm
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A rooster from "Big Mama" Thornton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycw4uaXPRU

And for more - not GD related - Big Mama Thornton, try "I Feel The Way I Feel" with the Muddy Waters Band (including Otis Spann on piano). You can hear the whole song on this web page (appears to be a sort of Russian YouTube!)

http://video.mail.ru/inbox/annaveraest/1127/2663.html

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 8, 2011 7:20am
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Interesting. Live I liked Rooster way better then CC. I can't stand either on tape. Though I did listen to a Rooster recently that kicked butt. If I remember I'll edit it in.

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Mar 8, 2011 5:00am
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Perhaps it's not their best cover song, I can sure think of lots more great ones that push this down the list. I guess I never really minded it too much because I love all things blues and it was a good gesture for them to include a great song like this. - maybe not the greatest interpretation, though, I'd have to listen to a few again to really make up my mind. I could be inclined to agree with you.

But AltheaRose is right, wouldn't want to miss any of those hot Wang Dang Doodles!